Hello players
This night i have post a suggestion ticket to bdm:
Good day ladies and gentlemen
By rereading all the requests and taking a step back, I wanted to give you my suggestion on the possibility of helping the players by modifying some aspect of the up.
Wouldn't it be wiser, without being moved, to increase the success rate (even if c of 0.5 or even of 0.1) after a failure as you have set up for pets?
For example a relic +3 the success is 10%, after a failure it would be 10.5%. This allows players not to feel like they are missing out and wasting their hard earned resources and therefore the players will know that sooner or later they will get there (which is not always the case).
I know that this process is not feasible on all the pieces of equipment but, the chance / Rng being too present for all the ups, will lighten the conscience of the hardgamers who see themselves losing all their hard-earned resources in farming or other .
While some pass 2 up by following, some (me the first) pass a real richness in object without success.
The feeling of fairness is gone. The work of the player is not rewarded, c just a question of the lottery and that is very regrettable.
Thank you for listening
Sincerely Cirmag
If some are agree with this just say or like it
Thank you all

I agree that some change is truly needed on the current upgrading system. Although the point of RNG is to keep gameplay fair, the current system is deeply discouraging. What Cirmag describes is fail stack, a feature that is already available in the console version of the game(BDO). I think this is a great idea, while it keeps game play fair, it rewards players to continue & aim higher. Oftentimes, we either spend hundreds or even thousands or farm endlessly, both requires hard work, only to waste everything on a roll of a dice (RNG).

At its current state, putting hard work to get better equipments is not equitable. After failing upgrades so miserably, I have to confess that I simply AFK farm. What’s the point? Any amount of effort doesn’t seem to equate to any progress, since everything is a gamble. I have considered to even move on to a game that is less punitive.

Fail stack doesn’t have to apply to everything, maybe at higher equipment tier, or after x amount of attempts, or at x upgrade level. This is a beautiful, well crafted game! It wouldn’t hurt to give some incentive to keep the community engaged. BDM, obviously, already have a player base that loves the game.

pe, NOT possible,,, What would happen to the players who reached the Milestone without this System? They already said that ENHANCEMENT is a MILESTONE achievement.


Look at what happened to Great Ocean, they completely destroyed it. People who invested their effort in Ship parts was over taken by people who rarely plays Great Ocean because of the patch that gave them MORE parts.


It's very easy to upgrade you're just not used to failure. if you invest 20k prestine per item, you wont even get scared of upgrade.


You want an easy way to upgrade probably beacuse you had it easy on other games. Just imagine the everyonw has +10 sets, what happens to the game?

And what happen to a player Who plays since the beginning when he see the new player success where the old fails so many time?
When you know that you can spend so many days or month Knowless if you arrive, where one just make it the first time.
What happen when you plays 20h/24 all days to farm for fail 3 or 4 months after all you have farm?
I don't talk to success all the time but improve the next one. Like i could see upper : the failstack. Thank you for the Word Vretiel ^^, that what i would think.
That could motive player to play more and not leaving after seeing lot of their ressource lost for nothing but up their chance for the next try...

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Then quit. No one is forcing you to stay. Creat another account that has better luck in upgrade.


You think you're the only one farming resources??? 3 Fails and you're already crying??? I can't count how many times I've failed before I have OCT items. But I never blamed PA for RNG. THat's what makes the game balanced.


Failure is part of the game, you're just afraid of your CP dropping.

This isn’t about asking for a “hand out” or expecting a red carpet to be rolled out for newer players. We are all on the same RNG nightmare. I understand that older players haven’t had a different system- that isn’t an excuse to be stagnant & avoid improvement. If we can’t see that there’s room for change-then we are also avoiding newer experience.

The elitist response has always been- “if you don’t like it, get out”. But where does that really take the game, as far as sustainability? Upgrades are not worth working for because it’s just a gamble. There is not much incentive to attempt high tier upgrades. If player population continue to die out, there will be no competition. If you haven’t noticed, servers are already getting merged since players are quitting.

Enhancement are indeed a milestone, but what’s the use of a pretty “OCT” gear if it’s simply serves as a decoration- since there’s no new challenge for months. That will be the same as playing “FarmVille” & having the best duck in town.

We tend to diminish others experience but this is NOT about crying after 3 tries. This is NOT about who farmed more, or spent more, or who started first. This is NOT about blaming devs either. This is about making the game equitable with hard work. This is about suggesting content to keep the player based engaged, competitive and hopefully alive.

The content you're suggesting, is it FAIR for players who reached this Milestone without the NEW SYSTEM?


Think about this, you have a +9 set, you're the only one who has it, you're also the TOP CP because of your gear, Spending TONS of resources to achieve it. Then all of a sudden, people who did not use their resources and just horde has the same Upgrade as you. How would you feel? Since you wasted ALL your resource to achieve what you have, you don't have anything to use for the NEW SYSTEM. So what happens to you???


This happened in Great Ocean, I was Top 2 ALL Servers. After G.O. patch, in lessthan 24hrs I drop to top 50++? So what happened to my hard work?

How many time have you spent in game ayaina?
Me i play since the beginning, and every day i see new player Who, with only 1 or 2 try,success where i have failed so many time.
I just want to not play for nothing and be rewarded for my work.
I anderstand your idea but the luck are so present for all in the game.
Have you never be furious to see a player (playing since 1month)make something easily... and you just loose everything you have done?
I respect your work but maybe it's just luck...
Good game to you

've been playing since launch, I'm also ON Line 24/7. I only log out during maintenance.


You can't blame new players for their Luck. It's RNG, it's fair for all. If I counted my Failures and resources in upgrade, I've already spent Hundreds of thousands. Do you know how much resources you need when OCT/+8 upgrade fails??? 20k prestine minimum just return to HEP/+7.

I know what you say....
What do you think i'm talking about?...
We use 20k and maybe a new player just make it with 1k....
That took me 3months and all my ressources to just make 1 oct with like 200k resto scroll.... and more than 400 100%akhrams.
I play like you 24h/24 7d/7.
That's all. I think we never be OK so NP
Good luck and good game to you ayaina

That was just a suggestion but don't worry pa will make nothing

This suggestion is very sensible, and those players who have been there since the beginning should like it, as for them there could be a reward for years of service, but back to the topic, the players who are against it are only the older players, who with their little souls think they own the game, I checked my friends list, and it's easy to see that players are giving up, not because the game is difficult, but because you don't play against other players, you play against the game, RNG is to blame for many giving up, players spend their resources and they are just lost, in short this game is already dying, and soon it will just be a playground for old players This game will die, it's just a matter of time!